cronesmoon: WoW Fishing

Hurricane Cronesmoon (

cronesmoon) wrote,
@ 2008-02-10 17:53:00

WoW Fishing
I've always enjoyed fishing in WoW. Most of my characters have spent much time maxed at fishing till they level up enough to get the book/quest/whatever to allow more skill. Both my mains were maxed when they got to Outlands, and bought the book as soon as they got to Zangarmarsh.

That's also the first place I found that one could fish in the Outlands. Erm. The first place where there's water deep enough, and evidence that there may be fish in it. Actually I've now got my skill up enough to catch one occasionally, but at first all I got was "your fish got away," even with an expensive fish-attracting bauble. And that's the lowest-level water in the Outlands. Boring.

So one has to go back to the old world to fish, catching fish too low-level to eat, cook, or sell profitably. Ten fish per point, and each of my mains needs to gain 75 points total before they'll be maxed at fishing.... Which I understand from others may still not be enough (even with +20 fishing poles and +100 baubles) to catch fish with reliable frequency in the Outlands.

Seven hundred fifty worthless fish. Euw. Fishing has become a chore. I didn't mind needing to catch more and more fish to get a point, when there were always places where I could always catch fish I could use. But this! Tedious to the max. What were they thinking?

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palintheist
2008-02-11 02:54 am UTC (link)

It doesn't get any better. Eventually, if you decide to continue fishing, you will discover that Skettis is the highest skill level fishing spot, requiring a flying mount to get to and a lot of patience to deal with the people fishing around you.

I have fishing 375 and the neat little crawdad pet... I make fairly good gold, enough to pay for raiding, from stacks of fish I catch [and I catch nice buff fish for myself too].

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cronesmoon
2008-02-11 03:49 am UTC (link)

My Horde main just made fishing 343, fishing floating debris off the coasts of Tanaris and Feralas for mithril-bound boxes full of goodies his guildies want. (Cloth, mostly.) I think my Alliance main is still at 335 or so; she doesn't have guildies to desire her to go farm things for them, so has less reason to be in Tanaris and Feralas. I try to force myself to fish at least one point's-worth every time we go to Stormwind, but euw. What a waste. The resultant fish aren't even worth a trip to the vendor.

Both mains are stocking up on the +100 limited-item baubles from the fishing vendors, but they mostly don't use them yet; if the water says "skill not high enough" without a bauble, there's no sense wasting a bauble on it. They can get only an occasional fish in Terrokar forest, and can't fish at all in Nagrand. I haven't even noticed whether there's water in Blade's Edge Mountains. Used to be first thing I looked for, but not anymore. Pfui.

I'm determined to get my skill up, though. I'm hoping in the end it will be possible to catch enough fish-per-bauble to make it cost-effective and fun again.

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palintheist
2008-02-11 04:42 am UTC (link)

if the water says "skill not high enough" without a bauble, there's no sense wasting a bauble on it.

That's actually how you should be getting your higher-level fish - you will not be able to fish in Skettis water without either a bauble or MAYBE all the fishing gear available from the Sunday contests, including the rare spawn fish rewards, plus the fishing enchant. You'd still get a lot of "get aways" with just the gear, but at least you could buy the cheap baubles instead of getting an engineer to make the good ones.

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cronesmoon
2008-02-11 11:36 am UTC (link)

I understand I'll need a bauble. That's why I'm stockpiling them. But when the water says "not high enough" without a bauble, a bauble won't do any good. You have to be able to cast into it before a bauble will help you catch anything in it. Or at least that's been my experience: once I can cast into it without a bauble, a bauble will help me catch an occasional fish, but not before.

As to all the other equipment, I did some research after I posted last night, and I see I'll need what I can get. Maybe more than I can get. If I have to have the stuff you can get only by winning the Sunday fishing contests, I guess I'll just have to quit fishing. [sigh]

Oh, well. I'm finding the Outlands not a lot of fun anyway: at this point I'm just leveling, like everybody else. It's a completion thing. I got them this far, I ought to go the last two levels before I quit.

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palintheist
2008-02-11 02:46 pm UTC (link)

Skettis will always tell you your skill isn't high enough, as you need skill 405 just to cast into it, let alone catch anything. Nagrand is similar, skill required is 380-395.

If you use a bauble of +100 when the water says "skill not high enough" you should be able to catch at a reasonable rate without get-aways - I don't know where your characters are in terms of levelling, but Nagrand's pools of Pure Water can be profitable, although the Skettis pools are still number one for making a little money.

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cronesmoon
2008-02-12 12:31 pm UTC (link)

Ah. I see. Pfui. My experience has been that if the water says "skill not high enough" and I put on a +100 bauble, I'll get maybe one or two fish in ten minutes if I'm lucky. That's what happened in the water next to the fps in Terokkar Forest, and I find it just not much fun. But maybe once I get skilled to the max in the old world, the rate will be a little higher. If I could get as many as four or five in ten minutes I think I'd be satisfied. But after five minutes of "your fish got away" and maybe one fish caught, I tend to get bored.

Both my mains turned sixty-eight a few days ago. I'm trying to talk myself into pushing them those last two levels just for completeness (and a flying mount), but in some ways it seems there's been a deliberate effort to make the Outlands feel like work (as frex the frustrating fishing). In consequence, right now my lowbie alts are more interesting.

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palintheist
2008-02-12 02:47 pm UTC (link)

I don't like Outland, and in fact I think they admit that they failed in their intentions with that one - I think Outland does a lot of big sweeping strokes but fails to feel like a cohesive world and story throughout.

As for fishing rates, there's a quest in Shattrath you should be able to take, given by a young orphan boy, which gives a fishing pole better than the Big Iron [has +55 stamina on it too, very useful for getting jumped by wandering mobs when innocently fishin'] - with that pole and the +100 bauble, I never miss a catch in Skettis or anywhere below, at 375 fishing. Fishing the pools up there, I pull in a stack or two of desired fish in about ten minutes, depending on competition.

Stack sells for 20g, +/-5g, so it's not a bad deal.

And one word of advice: pick one zone and use it to level to 70 [Netherstorm or Shadowmoon], and then use the quests in the other zone to make some very easy money.

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cronesmoon
2008-02-12 04:34 pm UTC (link)

Oh, I've seen that orphan boy, I think. But his quest seemed to involve one of the factions (maybe Aldor), and as I've carefully kept either of my mains from choosing between Scryer and Aldor, I refused it. I didn't want either of them to gain rep with the wrong faction by accident. I'll go back and take another look.

Aside, re factions: I think if my Alliance main has to choose, she'll go for Scryer as they do have one alchemy recipe; and if my Horde main has to choose he'll go for Aldor since they have some nice hunter stuff. (It's not inconceivable I'll ever get bored enough to grind rep.) Both these choices are, of course, annoyingly anti-RP, but what can you do?

It looks after some limited outside-the-game research -- there being almost no info in-game -- as though all you get for choosing, besides getting kicked out of large chunks of the city at invisible boundaries, are potential rep rewards and possibly? some Outland bank space, both of which seem pointless if you don't want to grind rep and have to go back to the old world anyway all the time for all business.

(Come to think of it, though, a good fishing pole is plenty of reason to choose a faction, so maybe they'll both go for whichever one -- if either -- is attached to that quest.)

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palintheist
2008-02-13 01:28 am UTC (link)

I'm not sure if you can speak to the faction quartermaster without first taking the faction, but this is what you get from Aldor:

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19321 [the Quartermaster]

And

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20807 [the "enchants" for shoulders]

And from Scryer:

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19331 [the Quartermaster]

And

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20808 [the "enchants" for shoulders]

You will get certain quests depending on faction, obviously, but you don't get extra bank space [you can access your bank from your faction's building in Shattrath] - there's also an apothecary who sells flasks, but you need Exalted with three factions to check out his stuff, plus then 25-man raid drops to purchase them.

I prefer Aldor, because the Scryers are, STILL, evil.

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cronesmoon
2008-02-13 03:21 am UTC (link)

Yeah, I meant bank access when I said bank space. Duh. And I've looked at lists of the rep rewards (thank you for these links: they're better than others I've found), but it seems pointless as I doubt I'll grind rep. Still, it's that possibility that makes me think my alchemist ought to go with Scryers, though I agree they're evil. Blood elves get on my nerves (and I have one, a pally, that I enjoy playing. But still).

I didn't know about the apothecary, but exalted with THREE factions? And then 25-man raid drops? I don't think so. Not my cup of teeth. I can do without those flasks.

Got the Seth fishing pole today on my Alliance main. Thanks for the tip. It's the same +20 as the Big Iron, but hits much harder (this matters, as I too often forget to put my sword back on), and that stamina buff is very nice indeed. I've sent the Big Iron to my honey's only Alliance toon so she can catch up on her fishing before she gets to Outland.

(The kid talks a lot about Aldors, is why I thought the quest was to do with them. Doesn't seem to've been, though.)

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cronesmoon
2008-02-12 04:41 pm UTC (link)

Oh, and re the advice on leveling, thanks. I was leaning a little toward that anyway as Netherstorm makes me cringe just to look at all that potential for falling off, so I thought I might save it till I have a flying mount. Good to have it confirmed that the notion is not just stupid.

My Alliance main has enough money for her mount now, and my Horde main may keep enough back from his guildmates to manage one eventually. It'd make Netherstorm a lot more attractive ... And fishing Skettis possible.

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	tenar10r 2008-02-11 09:41 am UTC (link)
	I fish in the little pool next to the graveyard on the outskirts of Shattrath. If you have 300 skill, + 5 pole, and +100 lure, you can fish right there and its relativly safe. Or try to get over to the Allerian Stronghold (there is a flight point there) and fish from the bridge or over near the FP. (Reply to this)(Thread)

cronesmoon
2008-02-11 11:48 am UTC (link)

I don't think I've seen the pool next to the graveyard. I have tried fishing near the flight points in Terokkar (Allerian Stronghold and Stonebreaker Hold) with only very rare success. Seems like a waste to use a bauble to catch one (Count 'em! One!) fish in ten minutes. If it never gets any better than that, I'll quit; that's just boring.

My Alliance main has the Big Iron Fishing Pole (+20: she went fishing off Shadowprey Village for it), and my Horde main has the Nat Pagle fishing pole (+25) that Hordies get for a quest in Hinterlands. They're both around 340 skill, and they only use the +100 baubles. Yet whenever they've bothered to try to fish in Outlands, it's taken ten minutes to catch one or two fish max, which really just doesn't seem worth the trouble. At this point I'm waiting till they've maxed their skills in the old world.

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	cronesmoon 2008-02-11 11:52 am UTC (link)
	Should have said she went swimming off Shadowprey Village. She's a warlock, so she doesn't even need the bubbly fissures that are there for the Horde questers robbing the same shellfish traps. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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